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The developer of Concord, Sony's upcoming PlayStation 5 and PC hero shooter, has discussed how it will handle the game's monetisation - and why the game requires a PSN account log-in on PC.
I want to know what Sony did to become the great monster for secondary logins when EA, Ubisoft, Activision/Blizzard, 2k, and more have been doing this for over a decade now. Why don't I see any articles against the games from these other companies? Even Activision is not 'allowed' in regions and people have to use VPNs and foreign accounts to download and play those games. Why is there no criticism there? EA's required secondary login breaks Steam achievements and more for people. Where is the criticism?
yeh i dont quite understand it myself, but this isnt the first time its happened rly.
@chris anti sony fanboys exist and complain about everything sony does. It's that simple.
They the ones who wanted PlayStation games on pc. They got it and now they still B* crying out excuses like PlayStation gets hacked but dont mention when steam got hacked and everyother company out there.
I think you have had to have an Activision account to play cod for last few years. on console/ or pc, but people were pissed at sony for initially offering Helldivers, then removing it saying now it needs psn,
cant offer some one a meal and then whip it out from under their nose, thats not cool.
Okay, so what's the issue with Ghost of Tsushima and Concord? And the reason they removed those regions is because people said they couldn't create an account there so Sony had no choice but to remove it and all of those players could get refunds from Steam for the game (meaning, they did their due diligence as a business). But, that wasn't good enough, people just demanded Sony not do the thing everyone else do. Do note, this is the exact same thing people have to do to play Diablo IV in those exact same regions but they do it using VPNs for creating accounts and playing the games. They didn't demand Blizzard remove the extra login or region locking. None of it.
Most of the people bitching online about that didn't even live in those regions and it didnt apply to them. So what, PC gamers are suddenly activists now? So someone in Jerkoffistan can't create a PSN account. There are worse tragedies.
Sony releases the game(s) in over 100 countries, then delists them, and the game now requires a PSN account, which is only available in 73 countries, preventing players from accessing it.
That was a stupid issue by Sony. But they offered refunds for the ones who where effective so they didn't short change them. Don't understand about the hate about needing PSN account for ghost or concord.
They refunded those people who wanted it. Furthermore, this issue doesn't exist for Concord nor did it for Ghost of Tsushima as they just didn't allow sales in those countries. Exact same thing Blizzard/Activision does with their games.
So, why the issue with Concord having a double login? Why not the other games that do the exact same thing.
Answer my actual question, don't drag Helldivers 2 issue into this which has been fixed and people who wanted refunds refunded.
I never understood that either. Most other companies have requirement log ins to their own company's accounts and they don't get anywhere near the flack Sony does for doing the exact same thing
I think it's pretty stupid, too. I think logging into your PSN isn't a huge deal. If they were to make a launcher/store front for PSN games that you had to login to, that would be a little more annoying but still, everyone else is doing the same thing. Unless Sony and Valve had some sort of partnership, this was inevitable
Yea, I want to know why it’s such a big deal. I don’t cry when I have to login to my Battlenet account to play Diablo 4. They probably require it for analytics and digital rights management. It’s honestly not a big issue and people complaining about accounts being hacked probably need to realize that the probability of some random account they have for some site or service already has been hacked. Set up 2FA if that’s the big gripe 🤷♂️
They saw how Valve got everyone to log into Steam to play games. FYI, you used to be able to just load games.
The companies that you speak off have 3rd party launcher's also and ea for awhile pre ea app did not have those restrictions.
Sony never once talked about psn logins when they first tossed games onto steam people purchased games under that situation they now can no longer access there content that they paid for after the fact.
Sony is not alone yes but there the only ones that will ban your steam account after a tos along with the only one that needs a account with 0 benefits.
With all the other companies a account comes with other benefits be it cross platform play free demo's on uplay or activision/blizzard with cross plat then there own security like the cell phone deal. Heck ea has there own deal's on ea app.
Yes helldivers with a account has cross plat but no other games does and you need a account for single player games.
Sony just wants a account to want a account right now there is 0 benefits with a steam/psn account link but it opens up them to locking online like helldivers or ghost mp to a psn paywall to play online something no other company besides mmo has ever done on pc.
I will not speak of trophies as locking that behind a account it not a benefit its just gated content for no reason all sony games can have steam achievements.
***Sony never once talked about psn logins when they first tossed games onto steam***
Yeah they did. Literally was required when Helldivers 2 released and was removed with notice it would come back once they fixed the issues. Then they were completely upfront about it with GoT and now Concord.
Are we going to go back in time machines before there we're no secondary logins for any game or are you ignoring those for all the other companies with secondary logins now? Is Sony bad for not doing it sooner? Is that your argument?
***Sony is not alone yes but there the only ones that will ban your steam account after a tos ***
This isn't in Sony's power to do. They can only ban people from using their network. So this is a lie.
***Sony just wants a account to want a account right now there is 0 benefits with a steam/psn account link***
Again misinformation. They use PSN for integrating cross play and awarding trophies on PC. The latter you actually confirm so you contradict yourself.
Additionally, no other secondary login provides a benefit to Steam, it's purely for the company's own benefit.
@Christopher
Here is a link to were steam is giving vac bans because people were playing there game without knowing it was banned in there country thanks to sony.
https://www.videogamer.com/...
I was not talking about helldivers 2 horizon 1 gow were on steam years before that game gow is now getting the login patch so far not horizon but it will soon and just like the other games its getting a ban wave.
"hey use PSN for integrating cross play and awarding trophies on PC. The latter you actually confirm so you contradict yourself"
Yeah because a trophy system then cross play for real? you do know there a thousand's of games that have steam attachment integration that just works then cross play wait are we now defending sony for this?
Who cares about cross play in ghost god of war days gone horizon sack boy etc
Steam achievements also have the points associated with them for buying stuff and can be showed off for sony games well you get none of that f u pc player.
I will never give sony my driver's license to access features that games had over 5 years ago they are account walling tires on a car basically and everyone is defending it.
I have a old sony account with purchases so they do have my info to a point but if i did not have a account then i would never make one.
Lets also not forget for a ubisoft/ea/2k/actvison account you just need email password now if your playing cod online your going to need a phone # sure but for the most part very basic information
Sony need's real location information reral personal information in most countries a console to make a account in some a copy of your govt id. So for many one account is all they got loose the info get banned well there goes your game library that playstation console is a brick now.
*** Here is a link to were steam is giving vac bans because people were playing there game without knowing it was banned in there country thanks to sony. ***
Sony didn't ban them. Valve did it. You said Sony banned them.
*** I was not talking about helldivers 2 horizon 1 gow were on steam years before that game gow is now getting the login patch so far not horizon but it will soon and just like the other games its getting a ban wave. ***
Ragnarok requires it and it's announced with its release. Not the original.
***Yeah because a trophy system then cross play for real?***
Yes. You said nothing. It does more than Activision/Blizzard for benefit, which is trophies on another platform in addition to achievements on Steam. You can downplay it, but it's still something. Not nothing.
Sony isn't being treated any differently. Gamers are now seeing Sony the same way that they see other publishers like EA, Ubisoft, Activision/Blizzard, and 2K. All this login business has shown is that there is plenty of room down in the mud for Sony to be alongside all the rest.
Perhaps if Sony hadn't spent 10 years saying "For the players" gamers would be more forgiving to anti-player practices.
But no one is complaining about every game the others put out let alone at all for having a secondary login.
People always complained about new login requirements like origin or Uplay these were always hated but simply put why do I need to log into anything to play ghost of Tsushima the single player portion.
Gamers are just inconsistent.
It's been industry standard. I have pc friends don't buy games with outside launchers, but they don't single sony out...t
I don't think it's due to anti sony bias, just...well...foolish people. Or foolish people being swayed by foolish people.
Because a lot of PC gamers now are former disgruntled Xbox fans who blame Sony for all their problems. Just like a lot of Xbox gamers were former Sega fans back in the day who also blame Sony for Sega's downfall.
A part of it is that it's just cool to hate Sony on this because I guess it's got an avant-garde quality about it?
Another part of it is the general public might not really follow this as an issue broadly and perceive it to just be Sony? People in online forums and news sites/aggregator sites are really an exception and not the rule in the gaming space when it comes to knowledge.
And yet another part is holding Sony to a higher standard than companies like EA and Ubisoft. Personally, this is me. I expect ABK, EA, and Ubisoft to do this stuff. I also swore off buying their games ages ago. Still buy PlayStation games though.
People don't need to agree with the reasons for this inconsistency, but understanding it, at least in part, does help to answer the question of why it is.
You need a PSN account to log in to PSN and play with othe PSN users, not that you should anyway but it ain't that complicated.
I will be siting back smiling at all the articles when they flip the switch so all pc players need psplus on there accounts to play online its all there right now with full support from sony fanboys.
God of War Ragnarok on PC will require PSN account but it doesn't on PlayStation. Why not? You can play GoDR offline on PS but not on PC due to PSN requirements.
PSN requirement on PC/Steam should only be a requirement if you want to crossplay with others on PS not a mandatory requirement on PC.
This is all about Sony trying to increase their PSN accounts artificially for investors, nothing more.
exactly sea i just played days gone no launcher nothing but god of war oh boy call the nsa we need so many requirements its like a packistan citizen going through tsa.
Why is it that this situation only applies to Sony when EVERY single other entity is also doing it?
I’m not trying to use whataboutism, but how come none of this is a thing when others are/have been doing it too…? Seems strange.
yeh but didnt people say that about helldivers 2. ps portal, lots of stuff then they go on to break records. so lets see
Sony has green lighted marvel's rivals/valoriant and the upcoming valve hero shooter along with your fortnight overwatches they all can be played 100% with no psplus account needed. In the sony tos if the base game is free then you do not need to pay for online access. Same with gta online now ps5 version is free
But sony is charging $40 for concord which mean you need per month payment to access the online do too that tos rule.
So with you play marvel rivals with friends free just download play or $40 per friend along with how much psplus you pay per month.
Do the math the game is doa
O shhheeeeett man you might be right on that!
Those free to plays sometimes give you crap guns though, weak in power and so pretty much force you to spend money if you want to win, and I don’t like that idea but yes. Bad time launching against Marvel and valorant, stupid idea!!
Yep its the only one that need's psplus because its not free so many other better games in the same genre that are free 100%
With upcoming PS5-exclusive releases pretty sparse, Astro Bot is exactly what the console needs right now.
My most wanted game, it looks phenomenal and takes me back to the good years of gaming.
Getting this day one. It looks amazing, just like Astro's Playroom but this time longer and better
Games still want to be like overwatch when overwatch is dead smh. I just want a regular military shooter boots on the ground without abilities and powers, just regular non superhuman soldiers using modern real life weapons for a pvp shooter.
When I first saw the trailer, at first I thought it would have been like Borderlands meets No Mans Sky. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case...
Just shows you what people want
If Concord doesn't do well and doesn't grab players attention then I don’t think the game will last long
Also it will heavily impact upcoming GaaS titles like Haven studios Fairgame$
Sony bought Firewalk Studios and Haven right off the bat so a lot is riding on this game.
AstroBot was the best thing at the State of Play.. i was like heyy look a video game.
Pretty much sums up my take too.
Gimme Astro
Keep Concord far away from me