There is no gens on PC. And i know that my PC has twice the preformance of the PS4. And do you know how much trickery there is in a console game nowadays? Aton. GTA5 on PC will be great. If its a 64bit games then we can push the texture res to 4k or even 8k. While infamous will prob be running on 1 or 2k textures.
We can already see on the PS4 thats its dated in terms of AA, AF and SSAO and even realt time physx calculations. Yes infamous will look good, im looking forward to it myself and it will play great. But dont spew out crap you dont know about. GTA5 on the PC will be the next big thing in a good while in terms of fidelity.
What makes you say that Rockstar dont have next gen assests on their hands already? Most devs make huge textures in 4-8k res but they downscale it for preformance of the platform. Will be nice to see what they have in store for us with a rig that can handle it.
^ hilarious how badly some console gamers try to convince PC gamers that consoles are way better, i usually play fps games and i just hate playing those on a console ever since i got into PC gaming.
We have our own exclusives too you know, i had a PS3 and sold it because it was collecting dust, i still have a 360 and that is also collecting dust. I just prefer PC. Much more versatile than a console.
As for the games, the better multiplat games often get released on PC and for cheaper anyway. The few exlusives consoles get i don't really care for.. Halo is way overrated, played 1 and 3 and didn't think much of them.
As far as i'm concerned Valve make the very best fps games, SOF2 multiplayer in 2002 was better and way more fun than Halo 1 on Xbox, too bad Raven software haven't made a true sequel to it because it would kick ass.
GTA V will look better on PC because of the in game detail settings, does not matter much about the resolution because 1080p is the best for speed & quality.
GTA San Andreas for PC better than Infamous on PS3? I don't think so. Rockstar would have to make almost entirely new game. It's the software that makes the PC. Just because you have all that stuff in the hardware doesn't mean you have all the potential in the software.
You would have the argument if Rockstar made GTAV for the next-gen so they downscale it for PS3 and 360. Then the PC version would be so amazing that it would be one of the best games for several years. However that's not the case and the game will be obsolete soon when it comes out.
Agree with you dude. Games like CSGO, Dota 2 is more than enough for most gamers to enjoy for years. Its hard to find games that have that kind of support from the devs with constant updates and newly added features and for free aswell.
And dont come and say csgo is on consoles aswell, it is. But its hardly the same game. Is more of a freakish twin that tries to mimic his brother.
Where do you get all your BS from? Really now. I really shoulndt feed a troll like you anymore. Going back to playing my games in 200fps with no jaggies here thanks.
Only way for you to understand is to see it for yourself with the glasses you sorely need.
Go over to a friend that have a real gaming PC GTX 580 or higher, and play BF3 on it, then look at the same game on your PS3. Maybe then you will see the diffrence. But i highly dubth a "man" like will understand the diffrence in anycase.
You are making some ill-informed comments. The games with the best graphics on the market tend to be PC versions of MULTIPLATFORM games. Crysis 3. Metro: Last Light. Far Cry 3. It's nonsense that a game has to be built from the ground-up on PC to look spectacular.
Multiplatform game engines are not PS3 or 360 game engines, and they are updated and improved substantially over time.
Mikeslemonade- Can you please explain how these "next gen" consoles will be running better graphics than PC by the time GTA V is released? Especially since my "last gen" GTX 680 has 3x the texture fill-rate of the PS4, 20% more memory bandwidth that isn't shared, and has over 2x more flops. No matter how anyone sugar coats things, the fact remains that Sony and Microsoft are selling you budget laptop parts in a nice looking case, with large profit margins... laughing all the way to the bank. They are a lot like Apple in the sense of all these companies have a cult like following who are so blinded by their own fanboyism that all they have to do is make new consoles noticeably faster and the moment an objective person tries to point this out... the drones spring into action to defend the company they worship, reminiscent of how a crazed Jihadi defends even the slightest mention of a derogatory comment about the prophet. lol.
Rockstar hasn't mentioned it, yet anyone with sense knows it's coming. Every main GTA game has come to PC's, and nVidia themselves said GTA V is coming later.
As for "PC fanboys" not caring, not sure who you're referring to, but this game will make Rockstar possibly another billion dollars once it releases on Steam. Don't underestimate PC *gamers*.
I bet you'll still be arguing against the PC version even after it's released. Are you by any chance the author of the "Keep GTA V off PC" petition? You seem to be on that troll level.
talk about a misleading title. the title states that the game "will" have these things, yet the article says,
"Also note the x64 reference, which means that the game will have support for 64 Bit memory. ie more then 4 GB of RAM, ie very high texture packs inbound, whether Vanilla or Mods we cant say. So you can easily expect 2k + texture packs in the future."
expecting 2k textures based on conjecture is not the same as it being a fact that they're coming. especially since, again, the title makes it seem like we know for a fact they're coming.
also, please learn the different between 'then' and 'than' or just stop writing articles for sites.
mattdill- Just because a game is x64 doesn't mean it's going to be using more than 4gb memory. Plus I think you're confusing system memory with graphics memory. There is no way on earth GTA IV even with 4k textures will approach 4gb in graphics memory. I'm running 4k textures as well as 8gb worth of mods (about 50) to see how good I can make Skyrim look and have only hit the 2gb graphics memory use mark a few times.
An apple thunderbolt 27" screen is full 2k so buy that (still expensive but 2k IS AMAZING)
Also I think GTA V late to pc is a good omen because they are going to release a far superiour version, i think they wanted to spend more time on this amazing game to make the pc version crazy good.
Yes it is absolutely smart of them. I really do not see any trouble with them releasing a pc xbox1 and ps4 version of the games due to the similarity in programming. I really do want to know if the speed of porting is as fast as rumored on ps4. Imagine them porting it in 3 weeks.
Funny how "must play now" is so true. If you played games a year behind the times the hobby would probably cost half the price, and the experiences wouldn't diminish in the slightest.
Well the thing is, if they can milk it more. Why wouldnt they ? :P On one hand we have Valve where we beg them to milk their franchises (HL3, Portal3) and the other hand we have R*....
it cost $300 million to make the game. Then you have to pay investers for risking their own money on the venture, which takes a large chunk considering such investments should make a return of about 8-12% per year. And finally there is always bonuses all throughout the company, and for government to then take 39% of the profit to pay for the welfare state, and lastly another 40% of the income of each employee at Rockstar.
My point is... the only greedy and immoral thing going on here is the government's screw*ng over of hardworking people... all so they can buy the votes of those non-working leeches who they redistribute those tax dollars to.
At least in europe they're not spending all the money, then borrowing an extra trillion a year as to not upset everyone living off the taxpayer.
I have seen words of some errors, crashes, and such for current gen consoles for GTAV which leads me to the fact that their game engine has everything all of the new game engines have that are "next gen ready" Which stresses current gen alot. It seems pretty interesting to me. Hey maybe its just me. All the things the PC edition has likely will be possible on next gen versions as well considering PS4/1BX run DX11, with 64-bit hardware. WiiU can utilize PC textures in a couple of its games I suspect PS4/1BX can as well to a greater extent. :)
After they didn't release RDR on PC I could have believed it. RDR would have sold extremely well on PC too. But with all the evidence it's pretty obvious that GTAV is coming to PC.
@Vish GTA IV is at the top of the Steam charts with every sale. I am sure the PC versions of all the GTA games did extremely well when they first hit and then continue to sell through sales. Just because they may have low sales in terms of retail release, that doesn't mean they don't do well otherwise. I can only assume they've shifted a lot of copies. Besides, if GTA IV really did do poorly, I would simply point to the fact that you could never be sure whether or not, no matter the power, your PC will even run it properly.
I saw somewhere, although it has been awhile, that GTA IV sold over 20 million on consoles and under 3 million on PC. If I can find source I will come back and provide it.
The code for RDR was a mess. That's why they didn't port it to PC. It was built for consoles. Rockstar San Diego is incredible, but they didn't have a PC version in mind when they made it. Lol.
PC games do not move like consoles. Sleeping Dogs completely bombed on the console then proceeded to sell 2 millions to date with help of the PC is an example. Because unlike the consoles there is no stigma of being lastgen, PC games like GTA 4 always scale up very well.
Whats wrong with you? RDR wouldve sold terribly on the PC. Incase you havent noticed were now in 2013, this is not the 90s anymore im afraid. PC gaming is becoming extinct!
That is why you never see games coming out for the PC anymore. Why would you wanna even mess with playing a game on a PC? MMOs is about it. How is it fun having your game crash on you all the time? Sell your rig man and play games on a console for Christs sakes!!!
@SnakePlisson You are terribly misinformed. Just about every third party game this year is on PC. Bioshock Infinite, Crisis 3, CoD, Battlefield 3, Batman, Tomb Raider... It's all there.
@SnakePlissken Seriously? How about no? YOu may of had a shitty rig, but mine never crashes. And really what's the difference between crashing and console games freezing? You still have to restart the system. I used to play on tmy PS3/360 all the time, but when I decided to bite the bullet and build my own rig, I have never gone back, until GTA V came out, but seriously, after playing GTA IV on max settings and then playing GTA V on my PS3, it was a real bummer. A downgrade, don't get me wrong the game is badass, but as soon as it comes to PC i will sell my PS3 version for a PC one.
How would you know how much he needs? Maybe he does a lot encoding or modelling work. Don't just make baseless assumptions just to make it look like you know what you're talking about.
He has 16gb of DDR3, and 3gb of GDDR5 on his graphics card.
PC's use both.
Here is the difference:
The principle differences are: •DDR3 runs at a higher voltage that GDDR5 (typically 1.25-1.65V versus ~1V) •DDR3 uses a 64-bit memory controller per channel ( so, 128-bit bus for dual channel, 256-bit for quad channel), whereas GDDR5 is paired with controllers of a nominal 32-bit (16 bit each for input and output), but whereas the CPU's memory contoller is 64-bit per channel, a GPU can utilise any number of 32-bit I/O's (at the cost of die size) depending upon application ( 2 for 64-bit bus, 4 for 128-bit, 6 for 192-bit, 8 for 256-bit, 12 for 384-bit etc...). The GDDR5 setup also allows for doubling or asymetric memory configurations. Normally (using this generation of cards as example) GDDR5 memory uses 2Gbit memory chips for each 32-bit I/O (I.e for a 256-bit bus/2GB card: 8 x 32-bit I/O each connected by a circuit to a 2Gbit IC = 8 x 2Gbit = 16Gbit = 2GB), but GDDR5 can also operate in what is known as clamshell mode, where the 32-bit I/O instead of being connected to one IC is split between two (one on each side of the PCB) allowing for a doubling up of memory capacity. Mixing the arrangement of 32-bit memory controllers, memory IC density, and memory circuit splitting allows of asymetric configurations ( 192-bit, 2GB VRAM for example) •Physically, a GDDR5 controller/IC doubles the I/O of DDR3 - With DDR, I/O handles an input (written to memory), or output (read from memory) but not both on the same cycle. GDDR handles input and output on the same cycle.
The memory is also fundamentally set up specifically for the application it uses: System memory (DDR3) benefits from low latency (tight timings) at the expense of bandwidth, GDDR5's case is the opposite. Timings for GDDR5 would seems unbelieveably slow in relation to DDR3, but the speed of VRAM is blazing fast in comparison with desktop RAM- this has resulted from the relative workloads that a CPU and GPU undertake. Latency isn't much of an issue with GPU's since their parallel nature allows them to move to other calculation when latency cycles cause a stall in the current workload/thread. The performance of a graphics card for instance is greatly affected (as a percentage) by altering the internal bandwidth, yet altering the external bandwidth (the PCI-Express bus, say lowering from x16 to x8 or x4 lanes) has a minimal effect. This is because there is a great deal of I/O (textures for examples) that get swapped in and out of VRAM continuously- the nature of a GPU is many parallel computations, whereas a CPU computes in a basically linear way.
On topic: Cannot wait for GTA 5 on PC! Having a blast with the 360 version at the moment. The modders are gonna do some pretty amazing things with the PC version.
Without reading the headline, I am pretty sure that GTA V PC will look spectacular with the DX11 support and nVidia physX etc. More particle rendering, tessolation, sharper graphics and not to mention mods will be awesome for it!
@Above, not only nVidia PhysX but also the support of AMD tressFX. I noticed games these days are pulling away from nVidia and featuring AMD. Such as Crysis 3, it featured AMD whereas Crysis 1 and 2 they always did that "always meant to be played nVidia" thing.
Either way I cannot wait for GTA PC I may consider rebuying if it comes out.
I'm pretty sure he'd play the game for years regardless, he is likely just reinforcing that if it looked even better... with mods/enhancements... he would play it for an extra year or two.
I was still playing GTA IV on PC up until V came out!
Are you going to be doing this in every article? Sorry that that wait we had on the PC version was simply indicative of us getting the definitive version of the game. Much like most games.
Every article? Lay off the meds there buddy Dont be such a hater, just because you have to wait. GTA 5 might not even make it to PC, hasnt been confirmed. Last time i was at Frys Electronics, they had a tub full of PC games for $5. I talked to the software manager and he said we are trying to clear out all our PC inventory.
He also stated that sales were way down and nobody buys PC games anymore, everyone wants to play games on consoles! So yea, lol youre dreaming there guy. You can be mad all you want, but theres no reason to make stuff up here. You just make yourself sound like a butthurt PC fanboy! PC gaming is on the bottom of the totem pole and you just refuse to accept the fact!
Haha child, no, nobody buys DISK based PC games, everyone purchases off steam. I own 25 PC game roughly and have TWO games I bought on disk, crysis 3 and BF3. I only did that because I got deals at best buy.
Two articles regarding a PC version of the game. Two crappy comments from you.
"GTA 5 might not even make it to PC"
It would be the first for the series and we keep getting constant information saying otherwise.
"I talked to the software manager and he said we are trying to clear out all our PC inventory."
Welcome to the world of digital. That's been the entire PC space for years.
"He also stated that sales were way down and nobody buys PC games anymore, everyone wants to play games on consoles!"
Again. Either talking about retail, or he was talking out of his ass. That or you are talking out of your ass, which I believe even more. No one denies more people play console. Not everyone can justify the initial buy-in. Casual vs hardcore. There will always be more casuals.
I am not butthurt. I am currently playing the superior version of every multi-plat game that you own. I also own consoles and get to play the games that don't come to PC. If playing better looking, better performing versions of games is bottom of the totem pole, I am happy to be there.
Your trolling skills need some work. You couldn't even make a single point that was even remotely hard to shoot down.
World of digital? First off are you dumb enough to argue with actual sales and numbers? Is that why gamers prefer retail and is that why PS3 and 360 games are still being sold on the shelves? That reply failed. Secondly, I am currently playing superior versions of every multi-plat game you own? Lol, really?
Outta the 70 plus PS3 games i own, i highly doubt you are playing anymore than 5 of them! I didnt realize Uncharted was released on PC. Seriously, what planet are you commenting from? Comon man, you are seriously scraping the barrel here. You cannot argue with facts and YOU havent made one valid point. You will have to come to terms sooner or later, cant be in denial all the time.
It boils down to this. You want to spend $2000 on a rig to play games, that you have to keep upgrading? For 7% better textures? Having it crash on you all the time, God! Lol, dont make me laugh man. That makes 0 sense, like your weak comments!
lol You don't need to spend 2000 dollars on a pc to run games and I've never had a crash in my life. Why do you console fanboys always make shit up to bash on the PC?
People still buy PC games at retail stores? Not sure where you've been the last decade but that is old news.
Nobody buys PC games at Fry's because its far cheaper and easier to buy them online (digital or boxed). Thought that was common knowledge, guess you didn't get the memo.
720p 20 fps vs 2560*1440 60 fos is 4 times the resolution, 3 times the dramerate. That alone would worth it for me.
Now there is some more eye candy and better texture, that's awesome. +MODS in a few months that add gameplay and better visuals and you'll never turn back and play the console version.
By the looks of your pic. You sure are one to talk. Get a life you loser and stop hunching over your desk like an idiotic teenager, trying to play games you suck at. Talk about retarded, lol. Noob tool!
As already pointed out.. Nobody buys physical on PC and its terrible for stores anyway (cant sell it second hand) stores have no interest in pushing digital distribution platforms that would ultimately put them out of business.
I have a lot of friends with hundreds of games in their Steam libraries. Just warching my friends list, theyre constantly buying new titles. Generally everythings much smoother, and often a lot prettier. (Far cry 3 hits this home most, the current gen isnt powerful enough for the games being released) GTAV is undoubtably held back by hardware limitations and will perform *much* better on PC.
Credit where its due! Consoles are convenient and have some nice exclusives -that is all- That GTA5 runs as well as it does on ancient hardware is pretty incredible.
What are you talking about? My PC is hooked up to my TV through HDMI and you are aware wireless controllers exist for the PC, no? Please educate yourself
Why does it hurt you so much inside that PC games will be able to also enjoy GTA V?
WormPisskin, you sound like a console only owner fanboy that's jealous because they can't afford a decent gaming PC.
A true fan of GAMES would want to see a game they like running at it's best and a studio they support having as much commercial success as possible as that leads better sequels generally.
There is just too much good stuff out and coming out on all platforms to look forward to.
lmao console kids are hilarious...that dude needs a life haha. When GTA V comes to PC, I'll sit on my couch with a CONTROLLER and play in front of either my 50" Pioneer Kuro or my 50" Panasonic 3D. Depends on if I want to use 3D or not...if it's supported.
That might yet still come to pc...It is never too late...Rockstar knows people will buy it again. I am not saying this as fact, just thatit is never too late to rerelease a game.
No way I could wait to play this on my PC (if it gets a release), it looks and runs great on PS3 but most importantly, the gameplay is just incredible!
I have never played a better open world game and I love to be part of the zeitgeist when a big game gets a release.
It doesn't look or run great. It's 720, it only just manages to keep to 30fps here & there, it's got no aa, it's got terrible pop ups, texture load late, I could go on, but console gamers that haven't sat in front of a top end gaming rig have no idea what a great looking game is..
As it happens squire, I do have a decent gaming rig, I just happen to not get hung up on graphics, I am more concerned with great gameplay.
The game looks and plays fantastically well, I have not enjoyed a game as much since The Last of Us.
I cannot stand PC elitists like yourself, so full of it. The fact is without consoles you would not have the vast majority of games you play on PC.
Do you really think that GTA5 would exist if it weren't for the console market? Do you think Bioshock Infinite would have been made without the console market?
You are kidding yourself if you think that companies would make AAA titles without the support of the console market, so wind your neck in and let those of us who enjoy games regardless of graphics or platform enjoy themselves.
You just sit there, not play GTA5 and hope that the rumors of GTA5 for PC are true!
Well I guess we will have to disagree then, however I suspect there is only one of us who has invested any time into GTA5 on consoles.
Obviously I am not suggesting it has the same fidelity as it would on PC, however the game is a great looking console game and runs just fine, I have not experiences any slow downs etc but most importantly the gameplay is just incredible.
Cool, I guess. Mods will still make it 10x better so there's no need to make that giant world register with 2k textures; the excess work isn't necessary. Modders will do it for you.
I am hoping for a next gen port more than pc just so I can retire the current gen as GTA online will be the thing holding that back.
I have a reasonable pc i5 [email protected], 16gb ram, 7970 which out performs next gen but to be honest *most* games I prefer to play on the sofa and big screen. I did hook the pc up to the tv but its not the same, there are always things to fiddle or a dialog to get up and click. Its just not the same.
Reckon Rockstar have chucked the PC codes in to drive PC gamers mad but don't intend on releasing it! Just announce it R*, your driving me mad and so are these inevitable endless articles. Just let us know the date so we can all sit back and look forward to it.
a console is merely a specific pc stripped out and crammed into a noisy little box that can barely cool itself, consoles are always behind in technology, the 'new gen' everyone's so excited about already came out like 2 years ago on pc hardware/software...thats not new!
there is quite simply nothing you can do on a console you cant do 10x better and faster on a properly built pc.
If you didnt read all of the comments above, let me sum them up to you:
- My PC is better! - No my console is better! - No my PC is better! - No my console is better! - No my PC is better! - No my console is better! - No my PC is better! - No my console is better! - No my PC is better! - No my console is better! - No my PC is better! - No my console is better! .... And on and on.
Personally I still can't get past the joy of just sitting on my couch playing the game on my 55 inch tv. If I sprung for the PC version I would be hunched over WOW style on a 23 inch monitor. I love mods and all...but I rather relax, sit back, and listen to Brittany Spears while murdering the populace.
Sheesh..... Imagine if Rockstar is just running a massive Troll Campaign. :|
Come on Rockstar, just announce the fucking thing.
Why would anyone believe that R* wouldn't release gtav on as many consoles/machines as possible?
Good stuff, can't wait. I'm on 16GB DDR3 RAM and have the ATI 7970 3GB graphics card so bring it on.
Without reading the headline, I am pretty sure that GTA V PC will look spectacular with the DX11 support and nVidia physX etc. More particle rendering, tessolation, sharper graphics and not to mention mods will be awesome for it!